CM Punk, he’s just looking for some moral support, a buddy, a friend to hang out with, someone who can laugh at the absurdity of the things that he’s going to say and do. Therefore, I don’t really need to go out and find a real job. Brock Lesnar doesn’t like human beings, he doesn’t like to speak to people, because he doesn’t like people. Heyman: It’s the best of all worlds for me. CM Punk though is very much on the mic himself. ![]() IGN: You obviously have a different dynamic with these two guys, because for Brock you’re often saying a lot for him. What a magnificent, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that I have to work with him. ![]() There’s no one that’s ever come out of college wrestling that has such a diverse resume afterwards as Brock Lesnar. There is no one as physically gifted in the history of this industry or the history of UFC as Brock Lesnar is. Brock Lesnar is a once-in-a-lifetime athlete, the only man to hold the NCAA Division I Heavyweight Championship, the undisputed UFC Heavyweight Championship and undisputed WWE Heavyweight Championship. ![]() What’s it like to work with him again after quite a few years? Heyman: I’m managing two of the three main events at WrestleMania with my two best friends in the world in my hometown. IGN: Meanwhile, what initially brought you back on TV was Brock coming back. How much more exposure can this man get? There are people who would do anything to have that type of exposure. One of the focal points, the final segment of the last show of Monday Night Raw before WrestleMania, was all about Paul Bearer. Heyman: Look at this way: there is a locker room full of Superstars that won’t get to make it onto WrestleMania this year. So for us to have an opportunity to push the envelope, to go against the grain, to see how much we can piss people off, is a dream job and a dream career at the same time.ĭolph Ziggler on WrestleMania 29, AJ Lee and Being a Heel IGN: I have to think Paul Bearer would be loving all of this. So every single solitary day that CM Punk is in this industry, he’s pushing the envelope just by being there. CM Punk is not supposed to be a focal point of Monday Night RAW, but he is. He’s not supposed to be in a main event at WrestleMania. He is not supposed to beat the Undertaker at WrestleMania. He wasn’t supposed to be WWE Champion, but he was for 434 days, the longest consecutive title reign of the past 25 years. He only got on the main roster because I brought him with me to the new ECW. The Smackdown writers had no vision for him. They sent CM Punk to developmental for me to fire him. And CM Punk has defied the odds since day one. Is it interesting for you to go out there and ponder if there’s a line? “Can we keep pushing this?” Heyman: We are the best of friends, and we get to revel in our role at the moment and enjoy pushing the envelope. IGN: The two of you have this great partnership right now and you are uber-heels in a way that we don’t see a lot these days. ![]() It’s to the discredit of those that didn’t. So just because I saw it, it’s no great credit to me. How can you see CM Punk and not understand immediately that you’re looking at a top-rank, number one, best in the world WrestleMania main eventer? I don’t understand how anybody could miss that. I think it’s an indictment on the decision makers back in the middle of that decade that they didn’t see it in him. He is as intense a performer and as driven and ambitious a performer as I’ve ever had the privilege of working with.ĪJ Lee Talks WrestleMania, Dolph Ziggler and Comic Books IGN: What was it you saw in him that at the time a lot of people weren’t seeing? Heyman: I’m very uncomfortable with any label that I’m a visionary or I was a genius for seeing something in CM Punk that nobody else saw. I learn from him every time I get a chance to see him perform. So how great was it for you to see him ascend and then for you to come in and join him in this whole storyline? Heyman: An absolute career highlight. IGN: I watched Punk’s DVD, and I was really fascinated to see the backstory between the two of you and how you really backed him to the WWE.
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